
Reviews of Triton Products
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Index
Biscuit Joiner
Biscuit Jointer (2000 Series)
Counter Sink
Dust Collection System
Finger Jointer System
Multi-Stand
Premium
Woodworking Adhesive
Random Orbital Sander
Router
Router Table
Saw
Saw
Chassis with Height Winder
Saw Stabiliser
Sliding Extension Table
Super Jaws
Plunge Drill
Steel Cutter
I have fitted the biscuit joiner to my Mk3 router table (the
later one - it doesn't fit the early ones). To do this you just
follow the directions that come in the box and it entails
drilling a couple of holes. It is not difficult, just use the
template and be careful to make sure that they go where they are
supposed to.
It works very well and has the big advantage of ensuring that
the boards will be properly aligned. However, it is rather
limited as to the size of the stock and where you can put the
biscuits on a long piece. Note: I have been told by others in
the club that this statement needs correction. If you remove the
guide, you can put the biscuits anywhere. I still don't think
it's as convenient as a separate power tool though.
I have always had great success with dowels, using a little
dowelling jig I have had for nearly thirty years. For me, I
don't think the biscuits are going to take over from them.
The verdict: If you like biscuits and you normally
work with short stock, you'll probably like the Triton biscuit
joiner. It works very easily and it is almost impossible not to
get good alignment. Be prepared , however, for the fact that it
is not as versatile as a separate power tool and you may find
yourself preferring to use other methods (like dowels) on long
boards.
Update: There is now an updated version of the biscuit
cutter. In operation, it moves from side-to-side (unlike the one
described above which pivoted on one end). I haven't used it so
I can't comment but some people say it's not as easy to use as
the earlier one, however it is more versatile as you can put the
biscuit anywhere along the length of the board.
Bruce Marshall
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The 2000 Series Biscuit jointer
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The new biscuit jointer system is easy to assemble and fit,
and use once you are comfortable with your router table. It
provides a very easy way of aligning the slots with the help of
the guide, though the guide does limit the length of the pieces
to be joined. With the use of a jig that I have developed and an
outfeed table, I managed to over come this, to fairly
satisfactory results.
The main failure in this system is the inability to insert a
biscuit more than 25mm from an edge. If for instance, you wish
to insert a biscuit across the centre of a board, say to fix a
shelf or partition, then you cannot.
The Triton system also uses a unique biscuit size, meaning
that you are limited to a single biscuit size and must buy the
brand name consumable, which is more expensive.
The verdict: An adequate system though for versatility
I would suggest getting a designated hand held biscuit jointer
or for economy, one of the adaptor kits made to suit a 100mm
angle grinder.
Rob Brumby
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For those who may be contemplating the purchase of the new
Triton dust collection system, let me give you my impressions.
I have had the old dust collection system fitted to both my
Mk3 workcentre and my router table for some time. The router one
was basically just the top pick up straight into the vacuum
cleaner and works quite well. The workcentre, however, had the
bag arrangement which fed through a narrow funnel to the special
plastic bucket to which the vacuum cleaner was attached. This
meant that both the top pick up and the dust from the bag went
into the bucket via the suction from the vacuum cleaner.
In theory, the system should have worked well and in practice
it did work quite well EXCEPT for the fact that the narrow
funnel at the bottom of the bag kept getting clogged. This not
only had an effect on the efficiency of the unit but it was
damned frustrating.
I have recently bought the new dust collector (I bought just
the new bag because I could use it with the existing bucket).
Unlike the old one, there is no vacuum attachment to the bag, it
just collects the dust which falls from the saw under gravity.
Also unlike the old one, the dust falls into a large mouthed
bag, not through a narrow funnel. This means that the vacuum
attachment only goes to the top so there is a much greater
suction there than before.
The verdict: It is GREAT!! I just ripped about 20
metres of ash and there was virtually no dust about at all, just
a lot in the bag - AND NO CLOGGING!
If you haven't bought it yet, I'd recommend it. It is also
more versatile than the old one. You could use the bag alone
(but you'd get a lot of dust from the top and the hose for the
vacuum cleaner comes with it anyway). You can also connect the
hose directly to your vacuum cleaner if you wish but it is more
efficient if you get the bucket as this means it doesn't fill up
as quickly and you won't run the risk of damaging the vacuum
cleaner. If you have a Mk3, you'll also have to buy the new,
clear, saw guard as this has the pick up for the hose built into
it. It is available separately and is a much better guard anyway
(you can see through it and it has fingers for holding the
timber).
Bruce Marshall
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This accessory, as with most of the others, is easy to
assemble and fit but again, attention to detail is critical for
a good joint. It graduated to make both 1/2" and 1/4" joints and
the changeover is relatively easy. As you would expect, use of a
sharp router bit is vital, also the better your router, the
better the job that is possible.
I strongly recommend making a few practice joints, both in
hard and soft woods before leaping into a job, but once
conversant with the system, this is a lovely tool to use. The
addition of a couple of clamps, to hold pieces in relation to
each other is a must, though this is the case for all finger
jointing jigs I have seen.
The verdict: A worthwhile addition if you are going to
do jobs where this type of joint is appropriate. With a little
imagination some really attractive and novel projects can be
turned out.
Rob Brumby
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Hand Held Counter Sink
This is an extremely useful product and is of very high
quality.It quickly drills countersunk holes of any depth in all
types of wood. A must for toolboxes for anybody doing any
furniture construction. I use mine constantly and it has been
performing well for 6 or so years.
The verdict: A great tool!
Chris Sheehan
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Would you believe that I won this in one of the Club's
raffles. Talk about a useful prize! This stand is designed to
support a long piece of timber as you feed it through the saw.
Various support stands are available on the market and usually
use a roller in the belief that this makes it easier to move the
timber. The problem is that if the stand is not perfectly
aligned, the roller 'steers' the timber. Another common method
is to use ball bearings to solve the alignment problem but these
can easily clog with sawdust.
Triton's approach is to use a slippery plastic top - the
timber slides easily and there is nothing to clog. In fact
they've used a channel with plastic on each side. This means
that you can actually use the channel like a light vice (it has
a small clamp built in). The top also pivots and has a
protractor scale so that it can be set at any angle from the
horizontal to the vertical.
The verdict: It's a great piece of kit. I would
happily have parted good money for it if I hadn't been the lucky
winner.
Bruce Marshall
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Premium Woodworking Adhesive
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This is Triton's version of PVA but much, much better. I
don't know what they put in it, but in my experience it lives up
to the claims they make. It is very strong, works easily and
doesn't spoil finishes as much as some others.
The verdict: Really good glue.
Bruce Marshal
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I am disappointed with this product. It is really only useful
for sanding boards or table tops. It cannot cope with any change
in surface or angles. It is limited by the fact that it is an
attachment to an angle grinder and is nowhere near as versatile
as a purpose built tool. I found that it can only be used for
short periods (10mins max)and then left to cool down for a long
period making sanding jobs rather long. It does a fantastic job
for its limited capabilities if you don't mind numb arms from
the vibrations and a long wait to finish. I went through the
velcro attachment plate very quickly but got another under
warranty; then the whole mechanism snapped. I returned it to
Triton (with a suitably worded complaint). I bought a Bosch and
am extremely happy with it.
The verdict: In my experience, not the best thing from
Triton
Chris Sheehan
And a second opinion...
I am very happy with this product. I went out and bought one
after I saw it demonstrated at the club last year and was not
disappointed. The sander came with clear fitting instructions
and it mated well with my cheapo chinese angle grinder. I have
never before been able to get such a fine finish. The high speed
of rotation means no more dancing spirals in the wood, and by
using 600 and 1200 grit wet-and-dry disks with organoil I
achieved a lovely finish in no time. I found it didn't get very
hot - I just let the weight of the grinder supply the downward
thrust, leaving me free to guide the surprisingly well balanced
sander along the wood. Yes, after some time the vibration left
my hands tingling, but I would expect that with any high speed
tool, such as a router. As for awkward surfaces - I even managed
to smooth out some scratches on the aluminium engine casing of
my motorcycle from where a previous owner had 'parked' it less
than gracefully. The trick is not to use the sander against
sharp corners that can cut into the sanding disk. I'm still on
the original velcro and the mechanism seems very solid. Well
done Triton!
The verdict: Great value, makes sanding so much easier
- a great accessory.
Jerry Everard
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We had the new Triton router demonstrated at our last club
meeting. It is amazing and everyone wanted to get one there and
then. To start with it is designed to be mounted in the router
table (it can still be used hand-held but has specific features
for table use). Features such as being able to raise the collar
so far that you can change the bit above the table. As you do
this it automatically locks the spindle so you only use a single
spanner and it simultaneously locks the power switch off so that
it can't run while you're changing a bit. Other features like
the full dust cover with dust extraction port; the fact that you
can remove the spring if you wish so that you are not pressing
against it when you adjust the height; the simple height
adjustment and the full travel micro adjustment. And that's only
a part of it, the router also features a 2400 Watt motor,
electronic variable speed and a soft start. See the full article
in the Triton Times Vol 7 (Available from Triton Mfg).
The verdict: This is one VERY impressive router. If
you haven't got a router yet, this is the one to buy!
Bruce Marshall
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Well, I hope you enjoyed playing with Meccano when you were a
kid because you just about need the experience to set up the new
router table (I had a great time). In all fairness to Triton,
they have done a fantastic job with the instructions but I've
never seen anything come out of the box in so many pieces!
It's really quite straightforward but some people may find it
daunting. Don't be put off though, the instructions are really
clear, just be careful and methodical. The only difficulty I had
was when assembling the sliding table insert, I didn't like the
fact that the 20mm M6 screws only just mated with the nuts on a
couple of threads. I increased the depth of the countersunk
holes in the MDF so that they fitted more securely. Allow
yourself at least a couple of hours to put it together.
The reason I bought it was because I've recently bought a
couple of the large Jesada shaping bits (the table edge bit and
the raised panel door bit). Both of these must be used in a
router table but both were far too large for the hole in the old
Triton router table. The new table has a much better hole and I
gained all the advantages of the new fence, pressure fingers and
sliding table insert. Be warned though that the raised panel
door bit (Jessada
690-501) is still too large to fit through the hole. In fact
it's a pretty specialised bit so, if you're thinking of doing
raised panel doors, do your homework before getting one of those
(e.g. you MUST have a variable speed router and be very safety
conscious). You're probably better off using the
690-601 vertical raised panel bit instead.
OK, I used the table today to make two raised panel doors.
That is a very useful router table. A great deal of thought has
gone into all the features and they work very well. The fence is
very easy to adjust and has micro adjusters to make it even
easier to be precise. The sliding table insert makes it really
easy to route the end grain of a piece of timber while keeping
everything square and the flexible fingers help keep the work
held down against the bit.
The verdict: This table is great. A big improvement
over the old one. People who make dovetails will be happy too
because the top is very much thinner than the old table and
slide so you won't need extra length dovetail bits.
Bruce Marshall
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I can't give you a good review of the Triton Saw because I
don't own one but I've only heard good reports from members at
our meetings. OK members, if you own the saw, send me an email
with a paragraph or two on how you like it (or don't, as the
case may be). In the meantime, here's the full article in the
Triton Times Vol 5 (Available from Triton Mfg.).
The verdict: All reports are that this is a great saw,
especially designed for the Triton workcentre.
Bruce Marshall
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I chose this saw as a replacement for another brand (one of
the saws that Triton themselves suggested!), purely to fit it to
the 2000 workcentre. The difference is incredible. The saw is
quite powerful and surprisingly quiet in cross-cut mode. I chose
to fit a 60 tooth blade and with care this gives a finished cut
that is very clean and needs very little attention to surface
finish so as to give a neat joint or external face, even
compared to the most careful cut made with a 40 tooth blade.
Thankyou to the rep at Mitre 10 for that advice!
It has an excellent range of adjustment, so that 'trueing'
the blade after fitting the saw is comparatively easy. When
combined with the height adjustment kit, setting depth of cut
becomes almost ridiculously easy and, thanks to a very positive
but easy to operate height adjustment built into the saw,
lifting the blade for coarse adjustment is no harder.
Another benefit of the triton saw is that, obviously, Triton
have made it easier to fit to the saw carriage and to true it
once there by virtue of a pair of cams. Unfortunately, I was
unable to true mine this way as the range of movement was
inadequate. I actually went as far as to take a tape measure and
a square and check that the table and the slide where correctly
assembled in an attempt to correct this. As such I had to mount
the saw as you would any other saw.
The only criticisms that I have are that the saw is quite
heavy for free hand use and, as I said, the cam adjustments
wouldn't work.
Rob Brumby
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Saw Slide Chassis Upgrade Kit & Height Winder Kit
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I have just fitted the new saw slide chassis upgrade and
height winder kits to my Mk 3 because I thought how luxurious it
must be not to have to reach inside the dust bag to adjust the
depth of the saw cut. It sure is! The kits are very nicely
engineered and manufactured, as we've come to expect from
Triton. They go together easily and the height winder works like
a treat. There is no major advantage to the slide chassis
upgrade unless you want the winder. The saw is slightly more
easily removed for hand-held use than it was in the old chassis
but not enough to warrant the cost or the trouble. The real
advantage comes from fitting the winder as well.
Of course, it had the added benefit of forcing me to spend
the time resetting the saw. It was always half a millimetre out
and I could never be bothered fixing it but now it's spot on!
The verdict: The height winder is well worth it for
the ability to easily and accurately adjust the depth of your
cut. Much quicker and cleaner than having to reach inside the
dust bag.
Bruce Marshall
I endorse Bruce's comments whole heartedly. The winder is
best in table mode however. The thumb winder in cross cut mode
takes a little longer to wind so I set the saw to full cut depth
before changing over. I have a Mk 3 so tend to change mode quite
often. However, in table mode it provides quick and accurate
height adjustment. I say it's well worth the money and if you
have a 2000 series with sliding table attachment it's a must!
Chris Sheehan
Jim Chapman uses the Hitachi 9C saw and reports that it fits
his 2000 without a problem. However when he tried fitting it to
his son-in-law's MK3 using the new chassis and the height winder
kit, one of the adjustment knobs fouled the chassis edge. The
solution? Pack the end to clear the knob or file a notch in the
chassis. Packing the end seems the easiest but then the chassis
is too long to fit between the rails on the MK3 top so it means
filing a notch. Thanks for that tip Jim.
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I have used the saw stabiliser ever since I bought my Mk3
workcentre about twelve years ago. I have the 235mm Makita saw
and I found that it did have a little saw slump when hanging in
the chassis. The stabiliser really secured the saw and I have
had it in place ever since. It does not interfere with the dust
collector bag. When I changed to the new
chassis though, I had to modify the stabiliser slightly to
make it fit (I had to grind some off the edge so that the bolt
holes would line up). I never convert the workcentre to
cross-cut mode (I just leave it set up as a table saw) so I
can't comment on whether the stabiliser is a problem when
converting (I can't imagine why it would be a problem though).
The verdict: I think it is worth it, especially if you
have a big saw. It just makes the set up that much more accurate
and easier to keep adjusted.
Mind you, the best solution is probably to use the new Triton
saw, it doesn't need the stabiliser.
Bruce Marshall
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I now have the sliding extension table attached to my Mk 3
and I can honestly say that Triton have done it again. This
works very well and allows you to "walk" the timber past the
saw. It is particularly useful when cutting sheet material and
allows you to handle a full 2400x1200 (8'x4') sheet on your own.
The fence is adjustable every which way so you can cut at any
angle you choose. The table dismantles for easy storage when not
in use. It fits either the MK3 or the 2000 and a smaller one is
available to fit either the compact saw table or the router
table.
The verdict: I think it is well worth the purchase
price, especially if you use sheet material. Once you have used
it you'll wonder how you ever did without it.
Bruce Marshall
From Robert Morrison...
Father Christmas must have heard my comments when I was
cutting big bits of wood (and had to get my wife to hold an end
so the off cut would not fall on the ground) about how good it
would be to have the sliding extension table.
Lo and behold come Christmas morning there it was under the
tree in a big long box.
They must use Triton glue to stick the cardboard together
because getting the packaging box opened was the hardest part of
the assembly process.
I found the instructions very easy to follow, but that is
probably because I had previous Triton experience when I
assembled the work centre 2000 about six months ago, and also
knew what it was supposed to look like when assembled thanks to
Peter's course at CIT.
About 2 1/2 hours on Boxing Day (I wanted to put it together
as soon as I saw it under the tree, but had to go through all
the Christmas Day stuff like going to Church and eating a big
lunch and toasting absent friends etc.,) was all it took to have
it assembled and tested.
What wasn't under the tree was a stack of shelving material
which appeared out of no where once it was set up and the
request to cut this to various sizes size to fit the linnen
cupboard, and a couple of kitchen cupboards.
Not once during this arduous forced labour did I have to ask
my wife to hold the off cut end.
Which got me to thinking just who was this gift from Father
Christmas really for her or me.
The verdict: A great bit of kit but I need another
Christmas soon so I can get the router table and router.
Robert Morrison
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These are the greatest thing Triton Manufacturing has ever
made! They are strong, versatile and very, very useful. It gives
you a vice wherever you need it. Not only is it a vice but it is
also a press and an anvil. Want to hold a door while you shave
some off the bottom? The super jaws will do it. Need to press a
bearing into place? The super jaws will probably do that too.
The other day I was putting up some trim in a room I was
renovating and I was some way from the workshop. I mounted my
mitre box in the super jaws (the job wasn't big enough to
warrant getting out the workcentre), and cut all the trim very
easily.
The verdict: If you haven't got one yet, don't walk -
run to your stockist. Super Jaws is terrific!
Bruce Marshall
What a workhorse! This is the most capable cordless drill on the market. I used mine to build a pair of garages for a nephew and it quite happily set 100mm 10G screws all day as well as hammering
an 8mm masonry bit into really solid concrete a score of times.
A workhorse indeed but this stallion comes at a price and the
price is weight. At 3Kg it is not the lightest cordless
drill on the market but the weight is offset by the capability.
It has one of the largest chucks of any cordless on the market
at 13mm, and unlike my other cordless drill the chuck does not
need the grip of a Tarzan to do it up. It has 22 different
clutch settings for screw driving and on the highest settings it
certainly sets them solidly.
Many of the additional features, that I thought I would never
use, turned out to be quite useful as well. The white LED
light, which I thought was a gimmick, became really useful as
the daylight faded. (My only complaint with this is the
position of the switch which I kept inadvertently turning on.)
Similarly the gadget to help you drill into pipes, that I
thought that I would never use, turned out to be invaluable when
I went to fit downpipes - yes it really works and I didn't run
off the pipe once.
Perhaps the heart of a cordless system is the battery and the 18
Volt Triton Ni Cad went for hours doing exceptionally heavy
work. And it recharges very quickly indeed. I have been in
the situation with my previous drill of having both batteries go
flat simultaneously and being forced to stop work waiting for
the drill to recharge. No fear of that with this one.
Before the sandwiches were finished the battery was rearing to
go, and we had the second battery as a standby as well.
The verdict: It is the greatest most capable drill
going - If you have a strong arm!
If not the Triton Drill will save its original cost in gym membership.
Jim Chapman
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